While the S4X17 ended without Pie in the face of the attending security advisors, we did have a number of other appearances. Recently posted on Digital Bond's YouTube channel is the main stage panel discussion around the topic of security certifications. Watch Bryan Owen discuss the benefits and drawbacks of security certifications. The panel is moderated by Dale Peterson of Digital Bond and Bryan is joined by Paul Forney, Technical Chair of ISA Security Compliance Institute, and Kenneth Modeste, Leader, Cybersecurity Technical Services at UL LLC. What are you thoughts around security certifications?